all change *again* and has my cover been blown!?
Just a quick post to update you on my current work situation, which has changed yet again š
First of all a brief reminder of what’s been going through my head over the last year or so:
September 2014 –Ā Alternative plans for FI and a new definition: Frugally IndependentĀ – I started to think that “Full FI” i.e. quitting a main job completely after saving hard for 10 or so years might not be the best way of doing this for me. Downshifting my hours or re-engineering my work schedule some other way started to look more attractive.
January 2015 –Ā Thereās Some Things You Should Know About theFIREstarterĀ – I announced I’d quit my job. Dramatic or what! Here is what I said:
“I have managed to negotiate a āslow extractionā from my current company, I will be there full time until June time, then go down to 3 days a week, slowly dropping down to 1 day a week around December.”
change, change and change again
It’s funny how things work because after having a bit of a whine about our new agile processesĀ at work, it has actually turned out to be a massive benefit to me because one of my original proposals to my employer was that I could go part time. On our old working schedule this basically meant something like having 1 or 2 extra days off per week, but that was not optimum for either party really due to:
- Head not in the game – If you are only working 3 days per week it is hard to get fully focused
- Work scheduling – Hard to start and finish big chunks of work in only 3 days, lot’s of handing over and then handing back, along with pauses in productivity. Not efficient at all!
- Train ticket – It would have killed me on the commuting costs because I would be paying for a full weekly or monthly ticket and only be using it for 3 days per week!
With the new agile 2 week sprint I had an idea that I thought was crazy, but it might just work š
So I put to them that I did 2 sprints on (so 4 weeks working) and then have a full one sprint off to do my own thing. This would nullify all of the above negatives:
- Head not in the game – I would be fully focused on big chunks of work over 4 week periods
- Work scheduling –Ā Again it is easy to schedule work in if you know someone is about for a whole 2 or 4 weeks!
- Train ticket – I can now buy a monthly ticket for the 4 weeks I am working, leaving the other 2 weeks train ticket expense free. I’ve calculated this will cost me a maximum of Ā£2,799 instead of the current Ā£3,276, a saving of Ā£477 (and that isn’t including any shrewdly worked out holiday bookings to make it even less)
They seemed to like the idea and obviously wanted me to stay on in some capacity if possible so this seemed to benefit both parties and…. they went for it! š
doing the maths
Just to compare current monthly figures with what the new ones will be then:
Old | New | |
After Tax Income | 3087 | 2193 |
Train expenses | 273 | 233 |
Net earnings | 2814 | 1960 |
Please note this doesn’t factor in pension contributions or bonus which obviously I will be getting less on both.
So now I’ll be working 66% of the year for roughly 69% of the pay which is fine by me. Screw tax efficient investing 1, this is tax efficient earning as now I’ll be just under the 40% bracket!
I’ll still be looking to build up some extra income in the 2 week sprints I have to myself, I won’t be resting on my laurels, it just means I’ll still have a solid income to keep us going in the meantime so to me this seems to be the best of both worlds.
It is also a massive safety net because if none of my business plans work out I am sure I could go back full time or we could even survive easily on this income anyway if we put our minds to it. Clearly I need to scope out a new monthly budget for when this will come into effect though (which is the end of August now).
I realise that I am simply buying time off of my future self to have now but I think I can deal with that, and also if I think I can make productive use of that time, and let’s face it, have a bit more downtime/funtime as well, then I’d rather take that timeĀ now if it works out as well as I think it will.
out of the closet?
One final point of intrigue, I had a comment on the blog from “Greg” the other day that read:
“Good work, Mr. Gxxxxxx. Youāve still got a fair way to go to FI but I have a good feeling youāre going to be able to downscale in the near future to the point that work wonāt feel such a chore.”
Now this is weird because I don’t think I’ve ever let on my last name on this blog 2 and alsoĀ the way this was phrased suggested a nod to the fact that this person definitely knew me and my plans with work, almost suggesting it is someone FROM work. This has really bamboozled me because I don’t think I’ve told anyone at work about the blog, in fact I am sure I have been quiet careful to never go onto the blog even while anyone else has been in the office.
What’s more there is no one called Greg at work, and I don’t know anyone called Greg either. I decided toĀ check the email address that was supplied on facebook and this person did actually existĀ butĀ it wasn’t anyone I know (I also sent an email and they didn’t reply!).
So is this someone I know and they’ve left a fake name and email address (that turned out to be real person) and I have been not onlyĀ outed from the FI closetĀ but also as theFIREstarter!?!
Or is it all just massive coincidence and I have accidentally dropped my surname somewhere and this is just a “normal” reader who is simply referencing my previous plansĀ of downshifting/quitting?!?
Who knows… the mystery remains as such unless “Greg” gets back in touch and reveals his true identity I suppose!
That’s it for now! I am off to Madrid for the weekend which should be *awesome* and will post a full April expenses update asap. Have a nice bank holiday weekend everyone!
A few final questions:
What do you think of this current plan, better than the old one or not? Have I wussed out from sticking it to the man and quitting completely? And Greg… please reveal yourself!?
Discussion (23) ¬
Good Evening. I think i’ve laid out my lot to you before in a prior post, but I have done something akin to where you are (rapidly) heading…. i downshifted to work a 3 day week – it’s been 4 years now. Best thing i ever did. Mrs LCIL also dropped 1/2 a day so we have more time now.
Yes, to an an extent this is at the expense of reaching true FI sooner, but with 2 young (5 & 7) kids in tow we truly value the time now. “they’re only young once” & all that rings loud & true.
We’ve reduced expenses to reflect our lower income & still save a very large % overall, so the path to FI is still laid out in front of us for some time in the future. The thing is, we both enjoy our jobs, so being employed isn’t the end of the world right now.
the major headline to take away is this: no payrise in the world is going to make either of us go back to work fulltime. I get an extra 3 months of work a year compared to a full time employee (2 days x 46 weeks = 92 days). no job is worth losing that for once you have it! we are very fortunate to both have very secure jobs which makes the decision all the easier.
Hi LCIL,
You most definitely have and you were most definitely the person that really got me thinking on whether I could do something similar in the first place. So for that I owe you one, big time! If we ever get a meetup on the go in London somewhere the first round is on me!
With the kids I can definitely see the benefits are even greater.
I really hope we can still save a decent %age when I am on lower income but this remains to be seen (see latest monthly report for more info on that one!). I still remain positive that we can though.
I can’t imagine there are many jobs where you can do this so I feel very lucky, just hope it all works out as well as it has for you š
Have you got whois protection?
Hi M,
No I haven’t, see answers below for more info on that front!
Cheers
That would be a no
congrats on your work balance, i believe you make your own luck or at least can help lay the ground work
also if you ask your more likely to get than if you dont, especially if you have done the preperation to see the issue from the other persons perspective and your pitch makes it easier for them to say yes
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the comment, that was a really nice one to receive!
I believe you make your own luck to a certain degree but also am very grateful for how things have panned out.
Thanks again!
Unfortunately its all visible on whois and by posting this, you might be encouraging other people to lookup your name and address. I use godaddy to purchase my domains, and I pay for Private Registration to ensure no one can access my personal details (https://uk.godaddy.com/domainaddon/private-registration.aspx). I’m sure other registrars have similar services.
Agree with FF. Both your full name and address is easily found with your current set-up. If confidentiality is important (and I acknowledge it’s not always important to all PF Bloggers) you might want to sort it out pretty quickly.
@RIT & @FF
Yep – fully aware of the private reg stuff and decided not to bother with it when I first set up the blog. I wasn’t really that bothered about random internet strangers finding out who I am so didn’t think it was worth it. So no worries on that front! I realised that writing about the comment may encourage more people to look at that (and your comment even more so… hah š ) but really honestly doesn’t matter, I just thought it was an intriguing thing that happened so thought would post about it.
The only thing I would be really that bothered about would be someone from work finding out because I just don’t think the content of the blog would come across that great. I figure though:
1) What are the chances of someone from work randomly coming across this blog and reading it enough to think that they might know who it is that writes it, and then bother going to whois to see if they were correct
2) The way the comment was phrased was like they were hinting that it was someone I knew, but I may have just misinterpreted that
Cheers both for your concern and advice š
Hi,
Regarding your identity you ran a few races and gave your exact times. race results are easily available online. It takes about two minutes to find your name.
The electoral register is available online too.
Try this exercise, type your name and where you live into google, then websites such as 192.com will tell you exactly where you live. zoopla will tell you how much you paid for your house.
The power of 10 website will list all the races you ran in and what times you did.
I know your name and a few other bloggers e.g. ermine and one of the monevators . But it’s not worth much to me to unmask anybody. It’s unlikely I will ever meet any of you.
The internet can be a chilling place. Can you imagine what powers the spy agencies have. Nobody is anonymous online. I’ve been trying to reduce my online footprint but their are remnants still available online. I mostly don’t want people to know what i paid for my house or conmen to target me.
If I was back in the dating game i’d do background checks on everybody. There’s so much info available online and some people compile their own dossiers of evidence against themselves freely on social media and gift it all to zuckerberg and chums.
If i were you. i wouldn’t even allow this post to be posted on your wall and just go back and a bit vague about race times.
or if you are happy to be out of the “FI closet” come out and be proud! You could help break the social taboo and be a role model for other bloggers afraid to come out to their families, friends and communities.
Hi rodent,
Haha, brilliant comment and great work on the detective stuff, that really is quite something.
As mentioned in other comments replies above I wasn’t so bothered about actually remaining anonymous to readers of the blog, more that I would have liked to keep it schtum at work but I may have just accidentally told someone. Or not! I don’t know yet as “Greg” has not replied again yet š
I like being open and honest as I can and definitely don’t think FI should be something to be ashamed of. I can see me drip feeding the info about the blog to friends and family as time goes on but for now it’s a very small select group (AFAIK!)
Thanks again
lol. that whois site is amazing. thanks for the tip off. It did what i did in a second. 120x quicker and same amount of creepiness. Creepiness quotient is through the roof
Lol… you learn something new every day I guess š
hi FIREstarter, I have been reading your blog with great interest for a couple of months now. I am currently wrestling with the question of whether to do exactly what you are doing – go part-time, which I would love to do but which puts off true FI a bit longer, or go hell for leather and try to save up as much as I can. Under the current tax arrangements I don’t lost all that much income if I drop one day a week but with a general election on the doorstep who knows whether that will be true for very much longer. Also wrestling with the question of whether to pay off the mortgage on my BTL flat – there is currently a tax advantage to the mortgage interest but if I went for FI in a couple of years I would be living on about Ā£15000 a year anyway so that would no longer be so relevant and I really would rather not have a mortgage of any kind at the point I dump work for good. Anyway good luck to you, good to hear your employer has been flexible enough to arrive at an arrangement that suits both of you. Looking forward to hearing how it goes.
Hi Cathybird,
Thanks! Sounds like a similar situation – well actually you sound a lot nearer full FI than I am… nice one!
I guess it could be worth waiting for the election but I can’t see them meddling with tax to the extent it would make much difference between if you only dropped one day a week so I would say go for it, but don’t take that as advice obviously š
Can see where you are coming from with the BTL, if the interest cannot be deducted off your non existant tax bill then you want to ice that mortgage ASAP!
Thanks again for the well wishes and same back to you, I will no doubt be posting regular updates when it all happens and how I am getting on (I really hope the plan doesn’t change again anyway!) – I would love to hear any updates from yourself (or any other readers) so feel free to drop a comment any time even if it’s not relevant to the post at hand.
Cheers!
FIREstarter,
Pretty sweet deal! I hadn’t thought of engineering the start of my early retirement or financial independence like that, mainly because my job doesn’t really allow it. Working 40 hours every week isn’t nearly enough to get things done, so cutting that amount down will definitely not do.
Many of my co-workers work less than five days a week though. What surprises me most is that they actually earn more per hour worked because of how our tax system works. On top of that they get to keep all other benefits like health insurance and the likes.
Maybe I should start thinking about how I want to enjoy my own early retirement. Thank you for sharing and tickling our brains.
Cheers,
NMW
Thanks for the comment NMW!
Tax brackets sometimes favour working less which is a bit of an odd one as the general message is for a productive economy and more working.
You mention about not having enough time to do everything with 40 hours but why can’t companies replace 3 x 40 hour workers with 4 x 30 hour workers, for example? OK so maybe that can’t be implemented immediately at your work (or maybe it would never work) but I bet that a lot of places that would work just fine. I think many people would prefer this and it would also create more jobs so unemployment is lower!
I know there are already many part time jobs out there but I think we could go further still with this line of thinking.
Good luck with your thinking and glad I tickled your brain… really like that one š
Cheers!
This new plan of getting weeks off sounds better than getting days off. More substantial time off to do something meaningful with the weeks off. We are actually trying to see if we could go 6 month on/6 months off, but that’s probably much harder to convince bosses of. Especially tough to sell in technology (Will), while for teachers (Julie) it would be a bit easier.
Thanks Julie,
I agree 6 on / 6 off would be great! Give you time to hit some really big personal projects or do some awesome travelling.
I’ll take 2 weeks from 6 at this stage in my life though. I am actually on my very first day off of my very first shift pattern as I write this comment now, and I have to say I am feeling very excited about what I can get done in this 2 weeks! The world is my oyster as they say! š
Good luck with your convincing! š
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