get johnson and the tories out – vote tactically!
A very rare political post for me, but having kept quiet on original Brexit vote and regretting it after, I can’t let this one go without comment.
The Brexit referendum was supposedly a done deal for Remain and that turned out to be wrong, and this election is a done deal for the Tories according to polls and the bookmakers, but on the “every little helps” mantra I’ll try to persuade anyone who hasn’t made their minds up yet to vote against the Conservatives (a bit late I know but there may be some swing voters still left out there!)
If you already want to vote against the Tories but are not sure who best to vote for to get them out of your constituency, check out this handy tactical voting tool:
If you are still undecided then please do read on…. I’ll keep it short I promise!
- Johnson is a proven liar time and time and again. While Corbyn is not exactly a likeable character either, and I actually don’t dislike most of the main points of the Tory manifesto, out of the two of them I feel Corbyn is far more likely to actually follow through on the manifesto, and Johnson to renege on all the bits I actually liked about it.
- I believe Inequality is one of the major issues facing this country right now. I am fed up with high powered and connected individuals skimming all of the profits of productivity gains the economy makes while the workers of the country get jack-sh*t. If Tories stay in power this will only get worse. Labour promises at least to try to reverse this worrying trend somewhat.
- I want to Remain.Β I voted Remain back in 2016 and my stance has not changed. Labour promise to hold another referendum and so give us a chance to put all of this Brexit bullsh*t behind us.
- I prefer the Labour Manifesto.Β I probably should have led with this! As mentioned above I quite liked the Tory manifesto (barring Brexit) but the Labour one had a fair few more points I liked, plus a better stance on Brexit in my opinion. If you want a nice summary of the main Manifesto points that is very quick and easy to digest, the BBC have a good one here.
- I care about climate change. The Tories have made some grumblings about it but in the very recent past they have proven they couldn’t give a rat’s arse as long as there is some money to be made for their crony friends in business. They consistently tried to push through fracking despite a huge public outcry against it. They banned onshore wind FFS, again despite public opinion being overwhelmingly in favour of it (66% approval rating… they think 52% approval is good enough to Brexit so why they’ve gone against this is a mystery). A BBC Summary of the campaigns says “A Friends of the Earth survey suggested that Labour had the strongest policies to protect nature and combat climate change.” – surprisingly ranked even higher than the Green Party.
- I believe public services and spending are an important part of the economy.Β Contracting these sort of things out has just enriched shareholders and CEO’s of those companies, and not provided us any better service. People go on about “inefficient government” but look how much US citizens spend on healthcare per capita compared to the rest of the world. It just completely dismantles the argument that private is always best and more efficient.
- I believe in sensible regulation. De-regulation has gone way too far and has allowed the finance industry to profit immensely from other peoples misery (see 2008, plus the countless examples of companies going bust recently while employee pensions have been raided). We also need regulations to help protect the environment and workers against the “shareholder profit maximisation at all costs” mantra that is so pervasive right now.
- Tories are a party for the few, not the many – All of the above points in sum prove to me that the Tories are a party that just do not care what the majority of the country think (Apart from that one time we had a referendum, obvs), how things affect their lives, how they get by on a day to day basis. They are infiltrated by high net worth individuals who donate and bend the parties policies to their own end.
- I’m not selfish. I’m actually voting against my own short term financial interests here from what I can gather at least. But to me, this is worth it to try to get to a vision of a society that actually sounds good to live in for everyone (well, more people than the one we’re currently in, I’m not a Utopian fool). I don’t like the mainstream current narrative of the generally Tory lot that everyone is only out for themselves, that there is “not such thing as society” and is so divisive. I think we can do better if we all pull together and have common ground.
I know changing people’s minds that are already made up might as well be described as impossible, so if you vote Tory or want Brexit, that is completely fine, please ignore this post and we’ll all move on with our lives.
To this end, I had a lengthy text conversation with my Mum last night who was the one that actually bought it up, in which I comprehensively destroyed every single point she came up with that was anti-Labour. The arguments kept shifting and again and again but I disproved each one as it came up. At the end of it I just got “You are entitled to your view, as am I”. While I wholeheartedly agree with that statement, it irks me greatly when people views are clearly based on falsehoods.
Some of mine no doubt are as well, but I try to work with facts and not emotions, hence I haven’t said anything like “I hate Boris” or “Boris is a Bellend” in my list above.
I kept asking for source of her information (suspecting it’s probably the DM) but she ducked the question or got “someone posted it on facebook” – if this is the kind of thing we are up against I don’t really have much hope to be perfectly honest! π
I can’t see Labour winning enough seats and just to be clear, I have no real love for Labour. If the tactical voting tool told me to vote for the Lib Dems in my constituency, I would certainly be doing that.
One final thing: I know there are many “Anti-Labour” points going around in right wing Tory rags and being shared on social media (mainly thanks for my Mother dear!) and nearly all I have seen/heard of are just straight up total boll*cks. I could have put some take downs of these in the main text but to keep this short I decided not to. However, if you want to bring anything up in the comments I will happily have a go at dismantling them on an ad-hoc basis.
Good luck to all anti-Tory voters out there!
p.s. Boris is a Bellend!!!!! π
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Unsubscribed. Stick to the knitting, son.
Wow, and with your witty takedowns and well constructed viewpoints, this blog community will surely be poorer for it. I can only apologise to all concerned we’ve lost this heroic commenter.
Thanks!
I agree with the main thrust of what you’re saying, as in, get the Tories out. They aren’t just extremist and malign but also useless and incompetent, all at the same time. I’m afraid I think Labour at the moment are a bunch of donkeys but they are somewhat less evil than the Tories. Labour wavered on the fence over what position to adopt on Brexit for far too long in my opinion and I find it pretty hard to forgive them for that. I wish you’d posted on this a few days earlier in fact!
Hi Cathy,
Looks like the wavering on Brexit cost them hard in the end (that plus a huge campaign of misinformation and lies from the Tories, plus everyone apparently hating Corbyn). I wish I’d post it a few days earlier as well but in all honesty I think you may have been over-estimating this little blogs outreach with that statement π but thank you all same
All the best
Unfortunately, the slogan of “get Brexit done” won the day.
Don’t expect any problems to be solved by the new government – not just Brexit but there are loads of things that can be improved in the UK but Boris doesn’t have to follow through on any of his promises and the focus will be on “steady as she goes” and “get brexit over the line”.
It’s a sad, sad day.
On the brightside, the markets have been kind and with the rising pound it makes my FIRE target come closer than ever!
(like a rat jumping off a sinking ship)
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haha – i feel a little bit sorry for your mum!
i thought count binhead was the most credible candidate
I do as well, it’s sad she and so many others in this country just accept the first thing they read that scratches their confirmation bias itch π
Answering that comment more along the lines of what you actually meant though, she bought it up and the first thing I said was sorry mum no politics chat. But she pressed on, so there we go.
Haha, binhead for PM! maybe next time…
Disappointing news to wake up to this morning to say the least. But a good time to re-affirm personal commitment to creating change in our own communities and do whatever we can to surmount the numerous crises we’re facing. I’ve found George Monbiot’s thread here a good place to start: https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/1205378073463578624
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Hi Mindy,
Thanks for that, was a good read indeed.
All the best!
TFS,
Thank you for having the courage to put your neck above the line and post your standpoint on the election. That takes courage and I admire you for doing it.
Getting through today with a heavy heart has been making it drag, it’s hard to know where to look for hope at times like this. What I take comfort from is that the majority (I would say at least 95%) of my friends are of the same viewpoint as me, which makes me feel less alone (politically speaking) than I might had they not also have spoken up on social media.
Like Mindy, my feelings now are to turn my attention to things that are actually within my control, and really start to personally focus on things that I can change in the new year. Things topping my list are seeing what can be done to reduce homelessness and making incremental changes to become more environmentally friendly.
Thanks again for your post, sorry it wasn’t the result we wanted.
‘What I take comfort from is that the majority (I would say at least 95%) of my friends are of the same viewpoint as me’
of course they do, thats why they’re your friends! π
Thanks Corina,
My main hope is that Boris does actually pander to all the provincial towns that voted for him and therefore ends up “screwing over” the traditional Tory voters who came out all guns blazing this election. With stories such as this one:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/02/08/boris-javid-must-kill-ridiculous-unconservative-tax-plans/
So there are plenty of glimmers of hope already I think.
See I told you not to trust him, maybe (traditional) Tory supporters should have been just as suspect about him π
Cheers
You state that Johnson is a proven liar time and time and again. Please give some examples. Please give the sources of your information.
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You are clearly on a wind up, already forgotten the massive Whopper on the side of the bus during the leave campaign?
Also from this campaign:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/investigation-finds-88-tory-ads-misleading-compared-0-labour-11651802/amp
Do I really need to say any more?
If I said the sky was blue no one would ask for sources. Boris being a proven liar time and again is the same type of statement.
One more for luck:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-boris-johnson-result-tory-majority-nhs-lies-a9244891.html?amp
If you need any more stop being lazy and Google Boris lies
Open Democracy is a good place to find what’s really going on with Politics both in the UK and globally as well, e.g:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ournhs/nhs-opening-us-business-reassurances-are-demonstrably-false/
Thanks for responding. I just wanted to more fully understand your view.
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TFS should really have linked to this: https://boris-johnson-lies.com/ It’s quite comprehensive. It would be a much shorter list if it had a list of things he said that were true.
Thank you Andrew!
@Getting Minted wasn’t sure if you were trolling or not, apologies as it seems that wasn’t the case. It worries me how there is any one out there who has not read about his well documented history of lying, mind changing and so on. I don’t even actively read or watch the news but even to me it has been inescapable.
I was very sorry to hear of the election results, friend. You and I are aligned almost all of those points you mentioned. Unfortunately, we seem to be in a climate where people who used to support unions, labor, and the left are voting against their interests, and are voting for conservatives who are blatantly lying about what they can deliver. It’s happening over here, too.
Fingers crossed that we come out of this conservative hellscape soon.
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Thanks DbF!
here are two potential hopes that I have which could actually turn this into a positive:
1. Boris wants to keep the people’s vote so much he does actually do something radical and enacts some policies that will help them, reduce inequalities and increase public spending. I could definitely see this happening compared to previous Tory govs who were dead set on austerity.
2. The Man behind the curtain Dominic Cummings turns out to actually be some kind of genius and shakes up government in a way no other person has managed to achieve (and the outcome is a good one!)
Corbyn lost the election cause he was far far left. Completely unelectable in any modern democracy. Also England except other nations of the UK is a Conservative country. To be elected Labour has to win soft Tories. Can only be done with a Tony Blair figure. Brave you to put out there but unrealistic. Yes Boris is Trump lite with a thesaurus but was against poor opposition.
Hi Adam,
Of course I didn’t think it was realistic (Tories were 1.04 on Betfair to gain most seats) but what’s the point of having a blog if you don’t put out your own opinion every now and again?
I was silent before the Brexit ref as like most assumed Remain would walk it, and regretted not saying anything. Obviously if I had done it wouldn’t have changed the result one bit, but if there were 1000 such bloggers or other people with a public platform out there who did the same then it may have made a difference. So since then I decided to put up what I think on here regardless of how popular / unpopular that may be.
Cheers for the thoughtful comment though and I can’t disagree with any of it haha.