thought experiment #2: 10 year death clock
Welcome to the latest edition of “the thought experiments” which is a monthly series of questions posed by The Saving Ninja for us bloggers to “think about” and then write out our thoughts. The posts should be more “stream of consciousness” and as unedited as possible.
Todays question to think about is:
What would you do if you knew with absolute certainty that you would die in exactly 10 years time? It doesn’t matter how you know this or what you will die of; in 3652 days you will drop dead.
My thoughts on the 10 year death clock
While it’s a little morbid in one way, it is also a great question to get you thinking about what you truly value in life.
In general, there is no doubt that with a 10 year horizon, I would become far more “YOLO” in my outlook on life than I have been over the last 5 years
Here are some initial thoughts on the financial / lifestyle design side of things:
- The financial situation would change somewhat, I only have 10 years to live. However Mrs T and TFS Jr still have to continue living without me after those 10 years and I will need to secure their financial situation.
- However, the lifehacker (or death hacker in this instance) in me can see an easy way around this straight away… rather than waste any of my now limited time working to save up the money for them, I would just take out the best life insurance I could possibly get, a few years before the 10 years were up (you wouldn’t want to leave it too near to the 10 years so as not to arouse suspicion). I am presuming no one else would know about the death clock and it wouldn’t go on any medical records, so therefore would not invalidate any life insurance policy.
- So from that perspective we are now covered and I can focus on living life TO THE MAX while I’m still alive.
- We have about 100K in liquid assets that I could use for living expenses, which would realistically cover about 2 years of expenses at our current rate of spendy spending (eep!), especially if we then decided to do a bit more travel etc… Not that great.
I’d therefore have two realistic options in front of me
- 1: Continue on exactly as we are for about 3-4 years and continue to save (not bothering with Pensions at this point because, well what is the point!?) in ISA’s and probably a fair bit in cash in case the dreaded stock market crash everyone has been predicting for 5 years finally materialises. Once we had about 200K I would feel very comfortable we could make that last to the end of the 10 years (with a bit of side hustling no doubt).
- 2: Just quit work straight away and see how it goes.
I think with some side hustling I could make that 100K stash last 10 years, but if it started to get low after say 5 years of the YOLO life style I could always do some part time work to tide us over.
But what would I actually do?
For a start I’d definitely write up a bucket list! Things I would want to do would include:
- More travelling. There are tonnes of places to left on my list of places to see including:
Much more of South East Asia (we’ve only ever been to Thailand) – Cambodia (Angkor Wat), Vietnam, Thailand again, Laos, the Philippines and many more!
- Hiking to Everest basecamp (not sure I’d have the cajoohnas to go all the way but would be great to explore the general region and see some of those majestic peaks!)
- South America round 2 – Patagonia, more of Brazil and the Amazon, more of the Andes, Chile.
- Central America – All of it!
- More of the US and Canada – The Rockies, Great lakes, and some classic US road trips.
- Africa – Definitely would like to do some safari and other bits in Africa.
- Voluntourism 1 – I would definitely like to do a few of those trips where you go and build a school or whatever, would be fun and feel like you are helping out as well.
- Golf – I’d probably combine some of the travelling with playing a handful of the top golf courses around the world. Not too many though as they can be very expensive!
- Diving – I’ve always been scared of doing full diving so would be good to get that sea monkey off my back and see some underwater creatures!
- Bungee jump – sounds trivial but I’ve never gotten round to this yet, and is definitely be something I want to do before I pop me old clogs!
- Paragliding – The one where you jump off the side of a hill. I want to do that. I definitely do not want to jump out of an aeroplane. No thank you very much.
- Music – I would definitely go back to writing some songs, record them and publish them on the internet (probably just Sound cloud!). They may end up being rubbish and/or not at all popular but that would not be the point, it’s something I’ve always loved doing and it would be great to leave my mark on the world in a creative way, however small.
- Write a book – Why the hell not!?
- Running – I would definitely continue to run and keep fit. I wouldn’t want to let my body get unhealthy just because I knew I was going to die in 10 years, and I’d want to be as healthy as possible right up to the end so I could enjoy the world as much as possible.
- Charity/Volunteering at home – I would definitely try to up my charity efforts and do some volunteering stuff while back home as well.
- Time spent with friends/family – Of course I would try to spend as much time as humanly possible with loved ones (which might be quite hard given the rather expansive list above!)
- Blog – Of course I’d keep the blog going! I wouldn’t want to ditch you guys haha.
The travelling there could take up a lot of time and money to be fair so I’m not saying I’d get through all of that, but would have to prioritise and get through as much as possible.
One thing is for certain is that I wouldn’t want to be on the road too much because obviously time back home with friends and family is also very important!
Other random thoughts
- Would I tell anyone? – I think I would have to tell my close friends and family, yes. It would be necessary to make all the planning and lifestyle changes actually make sense to people for a start! And it would avoid lot’s of pointless lying about why I’m doing what I’m doing. As long as no one let on to the life insurance company of course 😉
- Another child – Awkward and very sad thing to think about here. We are planning on a second child but could I go ahead with that knowing that they would only know me for slightly under 10 years? I’m not sure to the answer to this one. 🙁
- Don’t stop me now – We went to see the film about Queen and Freddy Mercury “Bohemian Rhapsody” on Friday night 2, and it struck me that he was in a very similar situation to this thought experiment. True, he didn’t know exactly when he was going to die but he knew he probably had X amount of years left to live and then that was that. There was a scene in the film where he told the rest of the band members but then told them not to go on about it and carry on as usual, and also that he wanted to fully focus on spending the rest of his waking hours doing what he loved which was making music and performing. I think this is the attitude I would try to have if faced with a similar situation, I would want minimum fuss and just maximise fun and purpose for the time I had left.
- What’s stopping me now!? – Apart from the travel stuff which obviously has money as a factor, there isn’t that much stopping me from doing some of the stuff on my list above right now (music a good example of this). Time is obviously a factor here, but I could always rearrange my life slightly to fit 2-3 hours of making music per week for example. It wouldn’t take much to do this and over many weeks something would be accomplished, I am certain of that. Food for thought indeed 🙂
Right that’s it I think, what do you think guys?!
Discussion (16) ¬
Interesting take on the deadline (sorry, couldn’t resist the Dad joke).
The planned absence of an illness means you must have *really* angered the gods, or are planning on taking matters into your own hands.
Hopefully your musical talents aren’t so dubious that either of those outcomes proves necessary! 🙂
That is quite a travel list. You could always rent out your house, and take your family for a home schooled life on the road. Isn’t for everyone, but the geographic arbitrage might allow you travel further and longer.
Haha indeedably!
I have a very low humour threshold though 😉
Yea I’m not saying I’d get around all of those places, but it would be something to start from. Like I say you’d want to spend a lot of time at home with Family as well so no way I’d want to live abroad too long.
Cheers
Some great ideas there Andy – I love your travel bucket list and all the amazing things you want to do.
And yes – it’s always good to think what’s stopping us doing these things now – I am comfortable waiting a few years to do my travelling then knowing I will have much more freedom.
Hi Ms ZiYou,
You are so close to FI now it is easier to delay gratification right?
Although I notice from your twitter feed you are getting a fair bit in now anyway.. looks great! 🙂
I’m on a much longer path to FI so I need to think more about how to fit my life in with work and play/the good stuff/whatever you want to call it right now
Cheers
YOLO! It’s crazy how thought-provoking adding a 10-year clock into the mix is. Especially when some people may only be looking at 20 or so years left. You never know when a stray disease or heart attack will claim you. Not much difference really.
This seems to be the main comment in the FI/RE haters repertoire; “You never know when you’ll drop dead!”
This, of course, doesn’t mean you should turn into consume-extremists. But like you so often put it; there’s only so far on the scales you should go. We need to strike the right balance! It’s always worth it to re-evaluate.
Excellent post TFS! Thanks for joining in 🙂
This seems to be the main comment in the FI/RE haters repertoire; “You never know when you’ll drop dead!”
I’ve never got that as a response. Or more accurately, I get why people say it as a knee-jerk response, but it doesn’t make sense on any rational level of thinking.
You never know when you’ll drop dead… so why not tie yourself to working for as long as humanly possible while going on a few weeks worth of stressful high cost holidays to tourist traps every year, while buying a load of shit which makes your long term happiness needle increase by a barely noticeable level?
Yea great point, people who think don’t think outside of the box… you lot crack on with that 😉
Reading these thought experiments has been fascinating!
You totally have a bucket list – and it all sounds amazing! Also great to realise that there’s not a lot stopping you now.
I hadn’t really thought about the leaving a legacy behind part like you do with your music. I think I’m fundamentally too selfish – if I’m going to leave a mark on the world then I want to see it while I’m still here!
Hi Caveman,
It’s been great hasn’t it?
I think I’ll try to edit this into a proper bucket list and post it on the top menu at some point.
With the music the first reason was definitely just to actually do something I wanted to do, and I didn’t really ever think this would end up being “a legacy” of any sort but just something that I’ve created and put out into the world that has touched or influenced other people in some way.
I guess I’ve already done that in my own small way with this blog but it would be fun to be creative in other areas as well.
Cheers!
eEEEKKK! Great post but I dont like it! Not your post but the thought of the whole 10 year deadline thing…..
Haha, don’t be scared, it’s not actually going to happen (I bloody hope!)
Hey TFS,
Great to hear your thoughts on what you’d do differently in this scenario. I think it’s a good experiment to take because it makes us evaluate important things which we should perhaps be making time for now, since none of us know how long we actually have left. Go for it with your music I would say!
Here’s my answer to the thought experiment:
https://inspiringlifedesign.com/posts/10-years-left-to-live.html
Thanks for posting Corina, off to read now!
Re: music, I always just keep putting it off. TBF you do need quite a lot of time to chill and concentrate to make decent music, which I had in abundance in my late teens but have sweet FA of now. I can pick up and put down a blog post in half hour slots and do it on the train etc… but try doing that with music, it might take you 10 minutes to even remember what you were doing and half hour slots don’t leave much time for experimenting.
Anyway… there is no doubt that I haven’t even tried yet so I really should just give it a go, but then again on the other hand something else would have to give so it’s all about priorities, and this just seems way down the list at the moment unfortunately. Now if I were fully FI of course time would not be an issue! 🙂